Topic: Johnny Jackpot vs. the playing cards (Read 4107 times)

kints · « **Reply #100 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:03:07 am »

Buddy10 is playing 2 forums!!

Buddy10 · « **Reply #101 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:04:06 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:03:07 am

Buddy10 is playing 2 forums!!

Haha, I am... Is that illegal?

kints · « **Reply #102 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:04:55 am »

over there it is!! they said if anyone mentions puttertalk again they are banned!

kylek · « **Reply #103 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:05:52 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:04:55 am

over there it is!! they said if anyone mentions puttertalk again they are banned!

LOL... way too funny

kints · « **Reply #104 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:07:45 am »

I AM SERIOUS!!

Buddy10 · « **Reply #105 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:08:47 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:04:55 am

over there it is!! they said if anyone mentions puttertalk again they are banned!

Good for me I didn't mention Puttertalk overthere then...

I more or less posted the same information on both forums, so the guys and girls that are banned can see it overhere.

Quite frankly, I feel for Pieter Woudt. If everything is true I know so far, I hate was has been done to him, regardless of copyright, patent, etc. I know from close experience how tough it is to make a living as a designer! $:-\$

kints · « **Reply #106 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:09:39 am »

QUOTE:

Next person who calls someone a name makes fun of someone else or any other thing that could be considered a personal attack is gone. There is absolutely no need for that kind of stuff here. Also there is no need to discuss any other website forums. What they do over their is there business and doesnt need to be talked about over here.

kylek · « **Reply #107 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:12:02 am »

wait a minute... I think I found a loop hole for SC. It says the cards have a cool visual effect.... Anybody know if SC's headcover has a cool visual effect?

puttputt · « **Reply #108 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:13:47 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:09:39 am

QUOTE:

Next person who calls someone a name makes fun of someone else or any other thing that could be considered a personal attack is gone. There is absolutely no need for that kind of stuff here. Also there is no need to discuss any other website forums. What they do over their is there business and doesnt need to be talked about over here.

Does not say you will be banned for talking about PT.. I see nothing wrong with what that moderator posted.. I tend to like that..

Kevin

kints · « **Reply #109 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:14:28 am »

Oh Kevin...no poop! Being sarcastic and joking around!

drewspin · « **Reply #110 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:19:37 am »

Future entry in the Scotty Cameron glossary:

Johnny Jackpot

Scotty was homesick in an Amsterdam hash bar smoking reefer and watching a speedskating simulcast and saw a deck of playing cards with a funny clown character resembling a heroin addict. The image seemed to strike a chord and was later appropriated and named Johnny Jackpot after first choice name Billy Bonghead was rejected by Acushnet legal.

kints · « **Reply #111 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:21:55 am »

hahhashahahahhahahahhahaaaa.... great...I just spit coffee on my keyboard!

puttputt · « **Reply #112 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:24:01 am »

The mods there have handled it well.. They have allowed discussion simply said we have better things to do than link to/talk about another site.

I was chastised via pm about not taking a stance on this since I like camerons. I have chosen to wait until all the facts are out.. Are the designs the same? Of course.. But nothing I add will be a positive contribution to the site. If the design was illegally obtained there will be ramifications.

Kevin

kints · « **Reply #113 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:45:16 am »

who is chastising you.....we are still just talking about freakin putter right?

rrkman · « **Reply #114 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:46:15 am »

Kevin....a PM here or there? I guess I don't understand why someone needs to take a stand on this. This collecting thing doesn't need to be - either you're with us, or you're against us - does it?

Personally, I did take a stance on this. After hearing the designer's responses, it seems like he was unaware that it was being used by Cameron....to me that sounds like Cameron didn't have permission and it looks like he certainly didn't create it.....JUST MY OPINION - I'm not accusing anyone or taking sides. What does that mean to me....nothing really. I wasn't using a cameron because of some joker he 'designed'....I was using it because I thought it was a nice putter that worked for me. And honestly, I've been trying to get rid of the JJ cover that I have but now that there is someting interesting about it, I'll probably keep it....maybe even get a matching pack of cards for rain delays.

kints · « **Reply #115 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:47:55 am »

Quote from: rrkman on February 23, 2010, 10:46:15 am

Kevin....a PM here or there? I guess I don't understand why someone needs to take a stand on this. This collecting thing doesn't need to be - either you're with us, or you're against us - does it?

Personally, I did take a stance on this. After hearing the designer's responses, it seems like he was unaware that it was being used by Cameron....to me that sounds like Cameron didn't have permission and it looks like he certainly didn't create it.....JUST MY OPINION - I'm not accusing anyone or taking sides. What does that mean to me....nothing really. I wasn't using a cameron because of some joker he 'designed'....I was using it because I thought it was a nice putter that worked for me. And honestly, I've been trying to get rid of the JJ cover that I have but now that there is someting interesting about it, I'll probably keep it....maybe even get a matching pack of cards for rain delays.

thank you!! finally someone who makes sense!

Buddy10 · « **Reply #116 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:48:06 am »

Quote from: Buddy10 on February 23, 2010, 10:00:36 am

Another nice picture of the cards. They are sold at www.kikkerland.com per 12 decks in a display. Nice to have I'd say!

You can also buy one deck at http://www.bigbolt.com/, Pieter Woudt's own website! They are $ 7,95 per deck without shipping and handling and sales tax

@rrkman : I just ordered a deck of Crazy Cards! :laugh:

kints · « **Reply #117 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:50:24 am »

do you think these places are wondering why these cards are selling like crazy all of the sudden?

rrkman · « **Reply #118 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:51:17 am »

Not sure where but I mentioned earlier that if nothing else, Mr. Woudt will see a nice increase in card sales over the next couple days.

Buddy10 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:51:54 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:50:24 am

do you think these places are wondering why these cards are selling like crazy all of the sudden?

Haha, for Peter Woudt's sake I hope these sell like crazy! Anoyone else ordered a deck of cards yet?

kints · « **Reply #120 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:54:08 am »

I hate to admit it.....but I did.

Buddy10 · « **Reply #121 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:54:58 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:54:08 am

I hate to admit it.....but I did.

Well done kints! That makes 2! Anyone else?

kints · « **Reply #122 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:55:47 am »

i will just sit them on the shelf in my golf room.....to make me laugh.

rrkman · « **Reply #123 on:** February 23, 2010, 10:57:03 am »

I didn't buy one yet....I'll either wait for a gift or get one on the flippers market. I would think in about 2 or 3 weeks you could pick it up for around $5.50, gifted PP shipped.

rrkman · « **Reply #124 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:00:22 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:55:47 am

i will just sit them on the shelf in my golf room.....to make me laugh.

Don't lie. You know you'll take them out of the box and try to make those 'crazy' designs by moving the cards over top each other....so don't try to sell them as NIB at a later date.

kints · « **Reply #125 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:02:13 am »

hahahahahahahahhaaa....

we should buy a box...and start selling them under the Cameron section of ebay!

golfer4life · « **Reply #126 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:13:52 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 10:47:55 am

Quote from: rrkman on February 23, 2010, 10:46:15 am
Kevin....a PM here or there? I guess I don't understand why someone needs to take a stand on this. This collecting thing doesn't need to be - either you're with us, or you're against us - does it?

Personally, I did take a stance on this. After hearing the designer's responses, it seems like he was unaware that it was being used by Cameron....to me that sounds like Cameron didn't have permission and it looks like he certainly didn't create it.....JUST MY OPINION - I'm not accusing anyone or taking sides. What does that mean to me....nothing really. I wasn't using a cameron because of some joker he 'designed'....I was using it because I thought it was a nice putter that worked for me. And honestly, I've been trying to get rid of the JJ cover that I have but now that there is someting interesting about it, I'll probably keep it....maybe even get a matching pack of cards for rain delays.

thank you!! finally someone who makes sense!

Come on Randy, don't tell me that now, after all these years, you are going to buy the notion that JJ is going to pay for your kids college? LOL.....

I agree with you brother, I understand what are you saying.

In all fairness, they never said that people was going to get banned, they just didn't want any mention of other sites in their site, that is fair IMO.

Hector

TonyT · « **Reply #127 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:14:24 am »

Scotty will never explain it.

T

Buddy10 · « **Reply #128 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:14:37 am »

Quote from: jr on February 22, 2010, 07:49:53 pm

There is no reference to to anyone else involved in the design. In fact it clearly implies that this is an original Cameron design: "Scotty's new Jackpot Johnny character...."

I thought I had seen a stronger statement by Scotty Cameron, and I did. On his website Scotty states that it is his design :

"Jackpot Johnny is more than just a new Custom Shop character. He is a nostalgic throwback to a time when service was king. Scotty created JJ as the new face of the Custom Shop, a place where service is STILL king."

puttputt · « **Reply #129 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:14:50 am »

pm was here.. not taking sides either.. deck of cards would be cool for after round or rain delay spades games..

Kevin

reflog74 · « **Reply #130 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:16:08 am »

I assume puttputt is talking about a PM I sent to him, in reply to the one he sent me first. I assure you I did not "chastise" him for anything.

chas·tise (chs-tz, chstz)
tr.v. chas·tised, chas·tis·ing, chas·tis·es
1. To punish, as by beating. See Synonyms at punish.
2. To criticize severely; rebuke.

Ordinarily, PM's are between the parties to them. However, since puttputt has seen fit to mis-characterize my PM, I feel free to post it here. What I said was:

"Just wondered why one would post several times in a thread, only to say, "putting the kids to bed", "having a drink", while not stating a position on the topic under discussion. If one had time to post these trivialities, how much longer could an actual opinion take?"

I think that's a fair question to be asked of our resident "defender of the faith".

John

golfer4life · « **Reply #131 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:16:53 am »

Quote from: Buddy10 on February 23, 2010, 11:14:37 am

Quote from: jr on February 22, 2010, 07:49:53 pm
There is no reference to to anyone else involved in the design. In fact it clearly implies that this is an original Cameron design: "Scotty's new Jackpot Johnny character...."

I thought I had seen a stronger statement by Scotty Cameron, and I did. On his website Scotty states that it is his design :

"Jackpot Johnny is more than just a new Custom Shop character. He is a nostalgic throwback to a time when service was king. Scotty created JJ as the new face of the Custom Shop, a place where service is STILL king."

Interesting!

H

puttputt · « **Reply #132 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:17:08 am »

Quote from: reflog74 on February 23, 2010, 11:16:08 am

I assume puttputt is talking about a PM I sent to him, in reply to the one he sent me first. I assure you I did not "chastise" him for anything.

chas·tise (chs-tz, chstz)
tr.v. chas·tised, chas·tis·ing, chas·tis·es
1. To punish, as by beating. See Synonyms at punish.
2. To criticize severely; rebuke.

Ordinarily, PM's are between the parties to them. However, since puttputt has seen fit to mis-characterize my PM, I feel free to post it here. What I said was:

"Just wondered why one would post several times in a thread, only to say, "putting the kids to bed", "having a drink", while not stating a position on the topic under discussion. If one had time to post these trivialities, how much longer could an actual opinion take?"

I think that's a fair question to be asked of our resident "defender of the faith".

John

please don't assume.

Kevin

reflog74 · « **Reply #133 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:19:55 am »

Glad to hear it wasn't me.

John

golfer4life · « **Reply #134 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:30:19 am »

I think that if you are a true fan of name brand, you have to be willing to be objective, and when something doesn't look right, feel free to question. I don't think anybody has made accusations, and I don't think it would be appropiate. Having said that, rational discussion is always welcome in my book.

H

kints · « **Reply #135 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:30:51 am »

love the resident defender of the faith....

putterplating · « **Reply #136 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:32:42 am »

I am sure the JJ headcover was designed circa '02!!

kints · « **Reply #137 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:32:52 am »

that is why i like puttertalk......a balanced discussion board. i do feel though that there are still some over here who hate anything Cameron to be questioned. if that is your feeling head over there and enjoy...that is what TCC is for!

puttputt · « **Reply #138 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:34:41 am »

I think that's a fair question to be asked of our resident "defender of the faith".

really

Kevin

golfer4life · « **Reply #139 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:35:05 am »

Like I have said many times, I can balme them for it, it is a Cameron Fan based site, if I hate it that much I would not be a member.

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 11:32:52 am

that is why i like puttertalk......a balanced discussion board. i do feel though that there are still some over here who hate anything Cameron to be questioned. if that is your feeling head over there and enjoy...that is what TCC is for!

kints · « **Reply #140 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:38:25 am »

I am not knocking TCC at all....it is great for what it is. I really mean that. We just have a few here who hate the faith to be questioned....have fun.... stop being so biased....we are talking about freakin putters.

Hector is surely not the defender of faith! He is fair and balanced!

reflog74 · « **Reply #141 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:40:39 am »

Quote from: puttputt on February 23, 2010, 11:34:41 am

I think that's a fair question to be asked of our resident "defender of the faith".

really

Kevin

I figured you'd like and be honored by that. You aren't?

John

golfer4life · « **Reply #142 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:41:10 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 11:38:25 am

I am not knocking TCC at all....it is great for what it is. I really mean that. We just have a few here who hate the faith to be questioned....have fun.... stop being so biased....we are talking about freakin putters.

Hector is surely not the defender of faith! He is fair and balanced!

LOL, I know what you meant K. I am no defender that is for sure, but I am fair and balanced indeed. Some may not think so, but I believe I am.

H

reflog74 · « **Reply #143 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:41:54 am »

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 11:38:25 am

I am not knocking TCC at all....it is great for what it is. I really mean that. We just have a few here who hate the faith to be questioned....have fun.... stop being so biased....we are talking about freakin putters.

Hector is surely not the defender of faith! He is fair and balanced!

Would that make Hector the Fox News of PT? LOL!

John

puttputt · « **Reply #144 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:45:14 am »

Quote from: reflog74 on February 22, 2010, 10:53:58 pm

I'm not offended at all. Unless you meant I'm an "Infinite Monkey".

Re: your KoolAid FS, just observing irony.

Anyway, how about a new contest on PT. We'll call it: "Justify Cameron's Latest".

So far, we have these entries:

1. Maybe he had permission to use it.
2. Maybe someone else had permission to use it.
3. The colors are different.
4. Other people do it.
5. It was ugly anyway.
6. Anyone with a KoolAid avatar can just shut up.
7. Maybe it's not protected.

Any others?

No offense intended.

John

I have a serious question. Could I call you a name or post a post like this about "Reasons People Are Cameron Haters"?

I find it strange that I get grief for appreciating camerons in the cameron board.

Kevin

golfer4life · « **Reply #145 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:48:42 am »

Kevin, I don't think you are catching grief brother. I think your opinion matters as a Cameron enthusiast, just like mine. I am a fan of his putters, but I have no problem offering an educated, rational opinion, if I have one. I am my own person, and have my own way of thinking, that doesn't preclude me from been a fan of a product, right?

Hector :-)

kints · « **Reply #146 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:50:41 am »

Quote from: reflog74 on February 23, 2010, 11:41:54 am

Quote from: kints on February 23, 2010, 11:38:25 am
I am not knocking TCC at all....it is great for what it is. I really mean that. We just have a few here who hate the faith to be questioned....have fun.... stop being so biased....we are talking about freakin putters.

Hector is surely not the defender of faith! He is fair and balanced!

Would that make Hector the Fox News of PT? LOL!

John

LOL!!

rrkman · « **Reply #147 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:53:26 am »

Hector is more of the Nancy Grace......at least to me.

Hector my friend...I sure hope you know I'm just screwing around.

indyvai · « **Reply #148 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:53:53 am »

I finally got through this thread and have the following to comment / add:

1) I was shocked when I saw the original post. But I immediately assume that Scotty obtained the rights to the image legally considering I am quite sure Acushnet has a legal team... he doesn't need TCC to defend him.
2) Calling the character created by PW Jackpot Johnny is still creating the character... If you draw a dog, and I can legally use the image... and I call him Snoopy... I created the character.
3) If there is some legal battle, PW will be taken care of for sure... he does not need us to defend him.
4) I personally hate the JJ character... I have a different connotation in my head for Jackpot, so Johnny's a little too beat up for my taste.

Just my 2 cents...

puttputt · « **Reply #149 on:** February 23, 2010, 11:54:31 am »

Quote from: golfer4life on February 23, 2010, 11:48:42 am

Kevin, I don't think you are catching grief brother. I think your opinion matters as a Cameron enthusiast, just like mine. I am a fan of his putters, but I have no problem offering an educated, rational opinion, if I have one. I am my own person, and have my own way of thinking, that doesn't preclude me from been a fan of a product, right?

Hector :-)

Hector.. No worries with you what so ever. You are always well spoken.. I do think that getting called a name by a mod is grief.

Kevin

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