Author Topic: 1 piece technology verses weld necks  (Read 591 times)

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1 piece technology verses weld necks
« on: January 11, 2010, 05:59:06 pm »
Maybe I'm opening up a whole can of worms here BUT

If "1 piece technology" was so important (& quite a lot was made of it at the time)

Why do we have weld necks from the best putter manufacturer?.

Is the weld not an interference of the purity of the feel ?.

I'm not that well versed in the technology so, please don't shoot me I'm just asking.

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 06:53:38 pm »
Some people just want weld necks.... plain and simple. Plus there is no way to ever do some of the more unique things like stainless heads with carbon necks or carbon heads with stainless necks without welding.

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 08:06:49 pm »
Anyone that's swinging a putter hard enough to worry about a weld....shouldn't be swinging a putter.
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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 08:16:01 pm »
Nice bit of perspective, Doug.  I personally love the look of weld necks.
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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 08:18:08 pm »
I agree, Wedling just looks awesome!

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 08:42:29 pm »
I think the history of the origins of welding the neck is now lost. It used to signify the neck being placed different because of a special request (usually by a Pro) and that made it unique and subsequently more desirable.

I prefer a cleaner look myself.

I'm not a history expert on the old putters but I don't see that many Truett putters, Tad Moores, and John Byrons with obvious welds even though quite a few of them will have been welded.

Can anyone place a time period when welds became "en vogue"?

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 09:35:57 pm »
One Piece Technology came about because before Bob figured out how to produce a milled putter as one piece, EVERYONE milled the head and welded the neck on. It was revolutionary at the time.... now 20 years later in the custom/limited/unique putter world it seems that welded = cooler/ more unique

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 09:11:18 am »
Anyone that's swinging a putter hard enough to worry about a weld....shouldn't be swinging a putter.

Mr. Doug

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But generally I agree,  you shouldn't be swinging hard enough to notice.

Venno, thanks for the comprehensive answer.

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 11:21:03 am »
Anyone that's swinging a putter hard enough to worry about a weld....shouldn't be swinging a putter.

I'd be less worried about the stroke compared to adjusting the lie. 

I've heard horror stories of some welded necks separating when someone attempted to bend them. 
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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 12:33:25 pm »
Welded necks can be scary when it comes to loft and lie adjustment... snaping off, cracking the weld, etc.... another reason why one piece head is preffered, but not always possible!

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 05:30:18 pm »
I presume you setout for the loft & lie your trying to achieve but, get what you get after the disortion effect of the high tempertures created by the welding process.

Thats gotta be frustrating for such a precission company such as yourselves.

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 07:36:42 pm »
interesting how 1 piece was unique, but welded gives that personal touch

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 08:34:19 pm »
I presume you setout for the loft & lie your trying to achieve but, get what you get after the disortion effect of the high tempertures created by the welding process.

Thats gotta be frustrating for such a precission company such as yourselves.

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The problems are welds are not as strong as the structure of a 100% one piece putter.  You fixture them to get the neck and head right at first.  When you bend them after that you are bending on the weld and it tends to break. 
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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2010, 08:59:04 pm »
I presume you setout for the loft & lie your trying to achieve but, get what you get after the disortion effect of the high tempertures created by the welding process.

Thats gotta be frustrating for such a precission company such as yourselves.

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Tony

Tony the necks are fine after welding....everything is done to standard 71 and 3, but if a customer buys it and then wants it 4 degrees flat, then I start to sweat!!! Just like mattsam said, when you bend you are putting all that force on the weld, and its scary!

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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 10:58:27 pm »
That's when Glen is your best shot, you should see how he adjusts a long neck. The guys a flippin magician.
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Re: 1 piece technology verses weld necks
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 09:34:40 am »
That's when Glen is your best shot, you should see how he adjusts a long neck. The guys a flippin magician.

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