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drchipinski

How was BB helped Mizuno?
« on: January 05, 2007, 04:06:50 pm »
I am one of the few "Cameron" guys who actually likes the feel of Bob's work. It would be nice to see Mizuno and or Bob create more of a classic looking putter than the current models. Isn't one even called Ugh-lee?


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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 08:18:13 pm »
jeff: I frankly think that BB does way better work when he is NOT associated with a big manufacturer.

Realistically, fiscally he's probably not better off; but putter design-wise and think that he does his best work under his own name!!

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 09:38:29 pm »
I've never owned/putted with a Bettinardi other than the Mizunos at Golf Galaxy.

I'd love to review an OTR Vs. a Tour one at some point.
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 09:39:10 pm »
His HOGAN line was h o r r i b l e. Was not his best stuff.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 10:40:45 pm »
I didnt think the hogan line wasnt to bad but it wasnt great. :-\

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 10:55:58 pm »
I'd like to hear some thoughts on his 8802/napa style designs.  I've been watching out for one with the honeycomb face to give it a whirl.  Any thoughts on that style head or the honeycomb face?

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 11:12:38 pm »
Here are the 2 that I own.

The BB-43 is the centershaft and it is very sweet. Nicely face-balanced. The putter's finish is like fine jewelry in my opinion.

The MC-3 is a little light for me but it has a nice finish.

Still think Scotty's are better; but BB is way better off designing just "on his own"

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 11:21:25 pm »
doug ,how about a field trip to studio B here in chicago? they'll take in anybody unlike scotty..

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 08:06:16 am »
The new line compared to the Hogan line, is much better IMO.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 08:26:06 am »
There's 3 "big time" putter makers. Cameron, Bettinardi & Mills. Mizuno let Cameron & Mills get away. I hope BB and Mizuno are happy together, but have wondered why they (Mizuno) haven't had a putter line that equalled the acceptance level their irons have had. Maybe Bettinardi can do it for them.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 09:04:00 am »
There have been some interesting BB designs over the years. Magnum series, etc.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 10:13:31 am »
Next time I'm in Chicago, I'd  love to go to his Studio and see how the process goes. It's always interesting to see how different people fit you for a putter.

That'd be a great review in my opinion.
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 04:29:12 pm »
The new Mizuno/BB's are nice! I love the soft feel.

Doug-I would love to see a review of the OTR vs. Tour!
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 06:05:30 pm »
His HOGAN line was h o r r i b l e. Was not his best stuff.

I kind of liked the look of the Hogans... not the Baby Ben or the Hawk, but the more traditional shaped BHB5-CC and SS.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2007, 03:03:59 am »
Since am looking at a Hogan BB, how is the feel?
I could stick with only just one putter, but, what fun would that be?

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2007, 08:55:24 am »
Wow, Eddie, that centershaft is sweet looking!!

Doug, I'll be waiting on the Toll Road when you come zooming by.  A trip to the RJB studio would be stellar!!!

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2007, 02:58:44 pm »
We used to make an annual trip to Chicago in August.  I've been tempted the last couple of years to make an appointment the the B Studio.  I even called last year to inquire about appointments, cost, etc.

Someone tempt me again, please.  Ha.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2007, 01:51:16 pm »
It's a plan bmac...

Wow, Eddie, that centershaft is sweet looking!!

Doug, I'll be waiting on the Toll Road when you come zooming by.  A trip to the RJB studio would be stellar!!!

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2007, 09:47:14 pm »
I never knew about the B studio.  I'm doing it as soon as I can drag a pal or my dad with me.  I think that is a steal of a price.  I'm sure you'd learn just as much as the fitting benefited you.  Anyone else gone through a fitting there?

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2007, 12:14:39 am »
Here are the 2 that I own.

The BB-43 is the centershaft and it is very sweet. Nicely face-balanced. The putter's finish is like fine jewelry in my opinion.

The MC-3 is a little light for me but it has a nice finish.

Still think Scotty's are better; but BB is way better off designing just "on his own"

Eddie,
Your BB-43 does look sweet, I lost out on a chance to buy a mint BB-2 a few months ago. This guy had two Camerons almost new for sale that I bought and he told me he had a BB-2 as well and he brought it out to show me, it was sweet looking. I told him to save it for me and I would go get more money. When I called him to tell him that I was on my way, he told me that someone came by and bought it. Oh well!

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2007, 10:36:36 pm »
Check out their website and look at the BB-8 tour putter.  It has three individual slots cut into it.

http://www.bettinardi.com/tourcreations/index.php


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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2007, 12:53:42 am »
His HOGAN line was h o r r i b l e. Was not his best stuff.
Aside from the MOI mallets I can't really tell much of a difference from the Mizuno line to the hogan line.  Or his pre hogan stuff, for that matter.  To me it looked like he just swapped logos.  Just my opinion
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2007, 10:35:27 am »
You guys would love Studio B IMO :)

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 04:27:17 pm »
I wish I would have known about the studio when I was living in Chicago.  I have been to the Ping factory/studio but then again so has everyone who lives in PHX.  Now the Ping driving range is pretty sweet but they typically don't let the riffraff, like myself, on it.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2007, 07:55:15 pm »
Since am looking at a Hogan BB, how is the feel?

There great putters IMO. Which one you looking at ?

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2007, 08:50:19 pm »
Is there are technical aspect to the BB faces?  I saw a close up of Luke Donald's and I noticed that it did not have the normal BB face, it had a regular milled face.
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2007, 08:59:35 pm »
Is there are technical aspect to the BB faces?  I saw a close up of Luke Donald's and I noticed that it did not have the normal BB face, it had a regular milled face.

You know I never really asked..it kind of like his trademark I guess. Maybe Todd or Ben will chime in to answer that question.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2007, 10:10:57 pm »
The honeycomb gives the putter a 200% flatter face.  It is done by a jewelers tool coming down vertically on the face of the putter so the face is not concave unlike a normal putter.  I hope that helps.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2007, 10:14:00 pm »
Todd...Thank for stopping by...hope to see you here allot :)

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2007, 12:14:29 am »
200% flatter?  What is the baseline of flatness of a putter face if there is such a thing? 

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2007, 12:26:05 am »
200% flatter?  What is the baseline of flatness of a putter face if there is such a thing? 

Thanks,
Rob

Rob, 200%.  There is really not a baseline of flatness as every manufacture is different.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2007, 10:16:43 am »
Thanks.  That is the first time I have heard of measuring the flatness of a putter's face.

I wonder if there is a way to compare different brands of putters to see who has the flattest face?  That would be an interesting review.

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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2007, 02:14:10 pm »
I liked some of the Ben Hogan by Bettinardi putters (Carbon with the chrome finish and the Stainless Steel), wasn't a fan of the Baby Ben. I had a Camo Big Bee which was one sick putter - I regret selling that one as it was gorgeous but was almost too pretty to use. In terms of the new Mizuno line - I think they lack the flare of Bob's Tour Only putters. We all know that you get what you pay for, so a $199 Mizuno/Bettinardi compared to RJB's $800-$3000 putters are a big jump in quality, feel, and mystique.
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Re: How was BB helped Mizuno?
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2007, 03:45:32 pm »
I really liked the Hogan line.  It was great when Golf Galaxy was blowing them out for $100.  How often can you get a CS from one of the big 3 for $100?
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